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From: Bob Schor <bschor@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: Help w/ file transfer in RT-11
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 00:37:56 -0400
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <372E79A4.289A9E8A@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
To: kermit.misc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu
Tim Shoppa wrote:
>
> Karl Beykirch wrote:
> >
> > I have inherited an LSI-11 computer running RT-11. I'm pathetically
> > ignorant about RT-11. I have lots of data files for which I have a
> > program that will output a summary to the terminal (a mac running term
> > emulation- VersaTerm Pro). I need the whole file, not just the summary.
> > Since I know the format of the files, I think the easiest thing would be
> > to transfer them to the mac, where I can easily extract everything. The
> > only communication ports on the DEC are serial, so I tried something
> > like: COPY ABCDAT.123 TT:
> >
> > This causes lots of nice jibberish to dance all over the screen, but the
> > captured stream is incomplete.
>
> Seeing how you get jibberish all over your screen, the file is
> almost certainly a binary file. In order to move these files over
> a serial line, you want to use Kermit on both
> ends; Kermit for the RT-11 is available by anonymous ftp from
> kermit.columbia.edu. If I recall correctly, VersaTerm Pro
> on a Mac has a rudimentary Kermit implementation in it.
>
> Alternatively, you can use physical media (floppy, tape, Zip
> cartridge, whatever is in common to both systems) to move the
> files, or put TCP/IP on both the RT-11 and the Mac and FTP the
> files in and out.
>
If you really want to be "quick and dirty", for example, to see
what you have there, there is nothing quite like DUMP/TERM filnam.ext,
which will give you a nicely-formatted octal + Ascii dump of your data
file, all of the bytes. If you want, you can add the /NOASCII switch
to turn off the final Ascii column. This is probably NOT the way to go
for doing any sizable amount of data, but to do a quick "reality check"
on a file or two, it is quick, easy, and requires no extra hardware or
software!
Bob Schor
RT-11/TSX+ User/Abuser
P.S. -- In fact, I transfer mostly with FTP these days, though I've also
used Billy Y's Kermit implementation, KRT, quite successfully.